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Post by Madoka on Jan 10, 2016 1:08:55 GMT -5
I guess
if no one comes I'll do it on my own offline, I suppose.
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Post by Kat on Jan 10, 2016 1:27:30 GMT -5
ooo a Bible Study. Studying up is more fun with friends
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Post by Madoka on Jan 10, 2016 1:31:58 GMT -5
I think so to, Kitten I'm glad you showed up
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2016 1:49:05 GMT -5
Mwahahaha! I am your great enemy! If you want me gone, ban me!
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Post by Kat on Jan 10, 2016 1:51:48 GMT -5
pfft
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2016 1:52:39 GMT -5
Well, it's true...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2016 2:25:08 GMT -5
Guess I'm just overly upset by how much has happened...
People wanna ditch me just as soon as they see the worst of me.. Naturally, doesn't help the way I feel so much as it is others just leaving cause they can...
For what it's worth, I'm sorry for how overly blunt and difficult I am! I certainly don't want to be the only one apologizing forever though!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2016 4:54:21 GMT -5
Anyways, what do I do here?
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Post by Madoka on Jan 10, 2016 9:57:37 GMT -5
In this thread we study the Bible. You know. We state our interpretation of Bible verses. Maybe a little goofing off as long as it's not too distracting.
I think we should start out with the book of Genesis. Let's take a look at the first three days
Genesis 1(KJV)
1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.
7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.
8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.
9 And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.
10 And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.
11 And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.
12 And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
13 And the evening and the morning were the third day.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2016 16:32:06 GMT -5
(Ah.. I probably won't have much to say... I'm not averse to trying something like this out...but I can't be so incredibly dedicated to it. So, I'll say something when I can, or when occasionally prompted?)
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Post by Kat on Jan 11, 2016 11:56:11 GMT -5
uh.. sorry I left you guys hanging. I built a Bible forum yesterday and didn't check Espurr at all.
The first day, God created day and night. The second day, God created water and heaven. The third day, God created dry land, seas, grass, herbs, and fruit bearing trees.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2016 12:43:41 GMT -5
Oh. Of course... Well, I guess I don't have any further reason to come back here.. Finally, after being some stupid name for so many months, unable to ever do /right/, only ever bashed endlessly for my wrongs, I can truly, honestly say, there is absolutely nobody left here for me..
If not for the fact I consider both the name, and PMs I have here precious, I'd have deleted my account some time ago...
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Post by Madoka on Jan 11, 2016 12:47:06 GMT -5
Michael?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2016 13:02:00 GMT -5
Sorry Madoka! It just keeps coming to mind, and I'm positively seething! How many months has Kat been holding herself high and mighty above me, as though because I have done wrong, she must be in the right? She's driven me into the ground, part of what she's used has a biblical basis, and for drawing a line, and trying to make a stand, I come off as abrasive, and now am apparently a cyber bully? To the contrary! I'd label her the same! The fact that everyone's gone.... I want to disappear!
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Post by Madoka on Jan 11, 2016 13:04:52 GMT -5
.. I really don't think she's a cyber bully..
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Post by Kat on Jan 11, 2016 13:06:49 GMT -5
I'm not high and mighty.. I'm just in way over my head and I don't know how to deal with it when people decide pushing me around is A ok.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2016 13:13:12 GMT -5
..Certainly, she's well intentioned..but I've seen this often enough.. She's pleasant up until you make a single, stupid mistake.. After that, she's relentless. For me, she's been tanning my hide what? Five months most, three months minimum? Of course I didn't take it lying down.. When I wanted her to acknowledge my own intent, or something SHE did, it always became about how she was admin, or how I had no RIGHT.. I've suffered under this, Issi suffered under this... Can't even stand up for myself..
So, I guess it's a bit much! I hold out for the good in her.. Of course, now.. Pretty much everyone I thought was a friend is now gone.. Twili shoved me aside, and took Issi with him, giving the impression he was afraid of me.. People associated with him ditched me overnight, no matter how they spoke of being friends.. Save for Issi herself, I don't trust them after lies, deceit, and betrayal.. Maybe a little bit, but not much.. This is an empty, dead forum now! I just wanna be kicked out like with all the other places Kat has authority in! Then I won't keep coming back out of some stupid hope that things'll have changed!
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Post by Kat on Jan 11, 2016 13:13:26 GMT -5
I'm going to stand up for myself. And you don't have to like iy. I am not a doormat, nor will I accept being treated like one
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2016 13:15:54 GMT -5
Kat, same here. I'll not tolerate being tossed and kicked around by you anymore! Not that I tolerated it to begin with.. I already left a more full response..
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Post by Kat on Jan 11, 2016 13:17:48 GMT -5
..Certainly, she's well intentioned..but I've seen this often enough.. She's pleasant up until you make a single, stupid mistake.. After that, she's relentless. For me, she's been tanning my hide what? Five months most, three months minimum? Of course I didn't take it lying down.. When I wanted her to acknowledge my own intent, or something SHE did, it always became about how she was admin, or how I had no RIGHT.. I've suffered under this, Issi suffered under this... Can't even stand up for myself.. So, I guess it's a bit much! I hold out for the good in her.. Of course, now.. Pretty much everyone I thought was a friend is now gone.. Twili shoved me aside, and took Issi with him, giving the impression he was afraid of me.. People associated with him ditched me overnight, no matter how they spoke of being friends.. Save for Issi herself, I don't trust them after lies, deceit, and betrayal.. Maybe a little bit, but not much.. This is an empty, dead forum now! I just wanna be kicked out like with all the other places Kat has authority in! Then I won't keep coming back out of some stupid hope that things'll have changed! Woah. I thought it was the other way around. You wouldn't stop pestering me about the past, and I couldn't take it anymore Mm.. the thing with Issi? I was under high stress. That was actually the stick that broke the camel's back, so to speak(or however the phrase goes) wow.. just.. I thought you knew that, but I see now that you didn't, or you forgot it
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2016 13:22:43 GMT -5
..I'm not dismissing it! I honestly wanted you to be a PERSON who would consider trying to approach me on more equal terms, instead of always pulling the all-powerful admin card! Everyone makes mistakes, but you judge others for theirs harshly, without considering your own! I was under the impression this was simply the most recent time you had managed to upset Issi like that..
I never expected to get off easy! I expected you (and X) to actually bother being people!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2016 13:24:21 GMT -5
..So, of course.. when you never bothered.. I ended up pushing.. Call it my line I drew of sorts..
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2016 13:26:59 GMT -5
..Anyway.. I'm at that point where I either sleep or wake up..
I'll see what you say later..
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Post by Kat on Jan 11, 2016 13:27:16 GMT -5
And we did bother being people.. we have feelings to.. but I suppose admins are going to have those blown off
Do I pull the all powerful admin card on forums? Absolutely! It keeps people in check and keeps them behaving. Making it clear I have full right to ban people isn't a bad thing. I've come to terms with the fact that no matter how lenient the rules are, someone will hate me for enforcing them. It means I'm doing something right.
Do I enjoy banning people? of course not.. I don't give out bans for my own personal enjoyment
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2016 13:37:13 GMT -5
...Again though... You seem to forget what I said..
This isn't about you as an admin.. You've continued pulling the admin card LONG after I got past the bit on TMC!
You denied working things out with me as a person!
You didn't really consider what you might've done wrong.. Even that one PM where almost everyone was asking you to look right in front of you, at how others wanted you to understand!
Instead, for every issue, for months on end.. You've clung so absolutely to your role as admin, and NEVER tried to be a person!
Then, there's the way that.. Well.. You easily drove me into the ground as hard as I drove you.. Probably even harder.. When there is literally nothing in your head except for every little detail of every little thing you've done wrong.. No kindness for others.. No feeling except for betrayal, for sorrow, for regret, for abandonment, for all those little things you did.. That literally every action you took was wrong..and you begin to steep yourself in it...and doubt the very being of who you are..
Have you never considered that was the effect your constant admonishment had on me?! Plus the way Twili lied to me, right up until the end when he took Issi ans Arceus away.... ..I knew something was wrong.. I was just too much of an idiot to notice what... WHO AM I?!
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